I moved to California six and a half years ago. Every week since I’ve been driving to pretty much the same exit off the I-15 north. When coming back south, I always see Lake Hodges on my way home. The first couple years, it would look something like this:
On Google maps:
Take a look at Google earth though, and here is what the “lake” actually, currently, looks like:
A great deal of the lake is now barren. Look at those pictures. That’s not “the water level is a little lower.” That’s “the water is gone.” I have some clients who have been around the area for decades and apparently the lake has been pretty dry before, but everyone knows, as far we can tell, the drought in California is unprecedented.
A lot of attention has been given to the water cutbacks going on. Invariably, complaining happens with this. People who want a nice lawn for instance. Of course, those selling field turf have never been happier! (If you ever wanted an indication for how much external circumstances, often luck, can play a role in business, there you go.)
The other area that’s gotten a lot of attention is how in California, residentially, we don’t really use that much water, compared to overall water usage. It’s agriculture.
California is a huge producer of food for the country. Depending on the food, California may produce upwards of 90% of it. From Slate:
“California is the nation’s leading producer of almonds, avocados, broccoli, carrots, cauliflower, grapes, lettuce, milk, onions, peppers, spinach, tomatoes, walnuts, and dozens of other commodities, according to a 2012 Department of Agriculture report (PDF). The state produces one-third of our vegetables and two-thirds of our nuts and fruits each year…Simply put: We can’t eat without California.”
This is why this post is about everyone. Not just Californians. This drought is on the entire country. You can’t expect Californians to lessen their shower times and call it a day. At the same time, you can’t exactly blame agriculture.
What hasn’t gotten as much attention, what I think should, is why does agriculture use so much damn water? Because people consume so much damn agriculture!
The Huffington Post actually ran a piece related to this, going over the amount of water it takes to produce various foods. It compared similar food groups. Tea vs coffee for instance. Which is why I didn’t really like this approach.
I enjoy some tea here and there. But we all know, whether we like to admit it or not, tea sucks compared to coffee. “No, no, I actually prefer tea. It doesn’t give me the anxiety.” Sure. As if you don’t like the anxiety.
You can’t frame this only as one food’s water footprint vs another. That ignores all the various impacts food has on us. You need more context than that. I’m all for saving water and helping out with this issue, but to hell with you if you think I’m giving up coffee in favor of tea to do so. It’s not going to happen.
This is a problem with so many environmentalist approaches. They keep asking people to voluntarily make life harder on themselves. People would be happy to drive electric cars…when they’re not demonstrably more expensive than gas cars. When they have a similar range as gas cars. When you can charge it anywhere like gas cars.
Is it at all surprising Californians have voluntarily, barely lowered their water use? From the Associated Press:
“Despite the dire warnings, it’s also still not clear that Californians have grasped the seriousness of the drought or the need for conservation. Data released by the board Tuesday showed that Californians conserved little water in March, and local officials were not aggressive in cracking down on waste.
A survey of local water departments showed water use fell less than 4 percent in March compared with the same month in 2013. Overall savings have been only about 9 percent since last summer.”
The consequence of not lowering their water use was what exactly? The benefit of doing so was what? And don’t tell me about long-term consequences. Humans, on balance, do not think long-term. This is why a fine is all but guaranteed to be implemented. The immediate pain of paying money will, at some dollar amount, outweigh the pain of not having a green lawn.
“Don’t you care about the environment?”
I think most people actually do. But not at the expense of themselves. Tough to worry about the environment when most are worried about the next few days.
A will manifests when a way is shown. Showing people the way is where this gets lost. How do you lessen your water footprint AND gain a personal benefit? Or in the least, don’t have to make a personal sacrifice?
For at least two-thirds of people, IN AMERICA NOT JUST CALIFORNIA, there is a very clear avenue: Lose some weight. Which is how I like to look at this. Where can you say, make a more gentle water footprint, and eat less calories?
There is one obvious solution to this: Eat less overall. That helps everything. Eat less food and you’re pretty much guaranteeing some good things water wise.
The next, maybe not so obvious help: Eat less beef.
NOT don’t eat meat. That doesn’t work. You can’t ask people to do that. But, I think it’s reasonable to ask people to eat less beef.
First, beef uses a whopping three times more water than chicken and pork. For every pound of beef you have, it takes nearly an enormous two THOUSAND gallons of water to make it.
- Beef 15400 liter/kg, or 1845 gallons / lb.
- Chicken 4330 liter/kg, or 519 gallons / lb.
- Pork 6000 liter / kg, or 719 gallons / lb.
Beef, compared to say chicken, and most pork cuts, has more calories. Win for water resources; win for the person.
Beef, compared to say bacon, causes the same level of, if not less, excitement taste wise.
Beef and pork are roughly the same price. Whereas chicken is cheapest. (Data here.)
Beef, compared to other meats, may have issues with cancer. Win for water resources; win for the individual. (I’m not going into the details of this in this post. I know this is a hot topic for meat lovers.)
Beef, compared to chicken, has greater amounts of fat. Chicken tends to be predominantly protein. This is great from a weight-loss perspective, as a sufficient protein intake during dieting is a big win. This is one reason you don’t ask people to not eat meat. Protein is the most satiating nutrient. Take meat away from people and some may gain weight. Or some will have more issues with dieting. Or some will not lose fat as well.
This is where we run into issues with the vegetarian / vegan crowd. It’s not the eating style I have issues with. It’s the high horse, “I’m better than you because I eat this way” types we’ve all run into.
Because say I want a glass of milk, an animal product, rather than bread.
- Bread requires 1827 liters of water per kilogram
- Milk requires 940 liters of water per kilogram
Or say I’m debating between milk and nuts. Both things people often look at as protein sources.
- Milk requires 940 liters of water per kilogram
- Nuts require 2780 liters of water per kilogram
Your Trail Mix may be three times worse than my animal product.
If we make this more about water, the same principle holds true:
Note how chicken, fish, pork are *less* intensive than fruit.
Yet for some reason nobody is saying, “We should all go on a snacks / sugar diet.”
“No, of course not. Vegetables and fruits have tons of benefits. And only eating sugar wouldn’t be healthy. You have to look at more than that.”
But this gets lost when we look at vegetarian / vegan habits. Merely making a vegan choice does not guarantee a more environmentally friendly choice.
->This isn’t really about the environment as it is our ability to survive in the environment. Lack of water affects humans as much as it does “the environment.” The earth will be fine. We may not.
Not only is eating vegan a miserable choice for many, it’s a choice that doesn’t need to be made. Exchange chicken, fish, pork in favor of fruit, and, CO2 wise, you’re actually making matters worse! Depending on what you exchange your animal products for, you could be making water issues worse too.
We need to look at the whole picture. What helps people AND whatever environmental issue we’re trying to address? Because going around telling people to take shorter showers, have a shitty looking lawn, just give up all meat (give up bacon? really?), don’t give water refills at restaurants unless it’s asked, memorize the water differences between all these different foods…going around asking people to make their lives harder, isn’t going to happen. Until it has to happen.
Making a food choice that’s simple -“just eat less or no beef”- can help people lose weight, can likely help lower cancer risk, can still allow for more than adequate protein intake, allows us to still eat bacon (crucial), if anything will probably save some money, and has the biggest impact on water use, AND CO2 emissions? Now we’re talking.
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All water footprint numbers from here: http://waterfootprint.org/en/resources/interactive-tools/product-gallery/
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nlatimer
May 6, 2015
Very interesting.
And on the Star Trek front….. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/exclusive-william-shatners-30-billion-116672789084.html
reddyb
May 8, 2015
He just keeps going!
Mary
May 6, 2015
I don’t think limiting our food supply even more will work. Plus different animals have different nutritional profiles in their meat. It’s not just protein and fat. Personally I eat beef, find chicken disgusting and am allergic to sea food. And no, not everyone loves coffee anxiety 🙂
It does not make sense do have juicy green lawns in California. And apparently the drought isn’t bad enough in our governor’s eyes to restrict agriculture which accounts for 80% of all water used in California. And San Diego is completely dependent on LA for its water. And so on and so on.
In the end everything is always about the money. So I’m sure our water rates will go up and some lobbying group will have spent a ton of money to keep their water wasting clients’ operations up. And life will go on even if we have to shower with reclaimed water. (Actually agriculture is already using ‘cleaned’ waste water from various industries.)
Despite all the cynicism here my lawn is brown and I threw down some native seeds so when we get a drop of rain some beautiful flowers will grow. After all, the kids walking by every day need to see this.
reddyb
May 8, 2015
Hey Mary,
-What do you mean by limiting our food supply “even more”?
-There are other nutrients sure, but for the average person, they’re overweight. In America at least, I’m not buying the whole “we’re overfed, but undernourished.” You simply don’t see mass amounts of people walking around with rickets, scurvy, beriberi.
Plus, chicken and beef have similar enough nutritional profiles, the chance of someone going from normal to a deficiency by making that change is very unlikely. If we’re talking iron, that seems to get a lot of attention, we’re talking a very small decrease in amount of iron per 100 grams of meat. About .4 mg from going from beef to chicken, according to the USDA. 1.6 mg for beef compared to 1.2 mg for chicken.
-Wasn’t looking to make this political. However, say one did want agriculture to cut back on its water use. The best way to do this is not wait for Sacramento to make a decision; it’s to change what one eats.
Mary
May 8, 2015
– I meant food choices, sorry. I grew up in Europe and I’m spoiled when it comes to that 🙂
– about nutritional profiles: there is something in beef (specifically tri tip) that works great for anxiety. I’m not quite sure what it is (high bs?) but my doc told me about it and I’ve tried it and it’s very calming. That’s just one example. Chicken legs have a different nutritional profile than chicken breast and so on.
– I absolutely believe we’re over fed and under nourished. And perhaps we don’t get the extreme diseases but your body will remain hungry if it s getting low on a nutrient. That I also see in my daughter – when she ‘packs it in’ its usually because she’s low on iron so a couple of sips of Floradix will stop that cycle. For me it’s taking a multi that drastically reduces hunger.
I have many examples because nutrition has been a hobby of mine for decades. (By the way extra vitamin D is great for pain relief and mood. Even if you’re just a bit low but within normal range according to a blood test. )
– Ive tried to get some more info about what crops use how much water. And I’ve got a lot of conflicting info because apparently it depends a lot on the technique used and green house vs open etc. But in one example one bunch of broccoli is supposed to need 50 gallons of water from seed to table – can that be true? That would be mind blowing.
I agree with you there – optimizing crops and other food supply based on water usage (and technique) would be a great way to save water.
reddyb
May 11, 2015
-Alright, but then I’d have to counter and say it doesn’t appear our food choices have really been limited. Whether through regulation or abstinence. With so many people overweight and obese, I’m having a tough time seeing this view point?
-I’ve never heard of this red meat and anxiety connection. Briefly looked into it. Seems there could be something to it. (Thanks for bringing it up!) Although, I think it’s worth mentioning too much is associated with anxiety issues too.
Couple links I found that seemed fairly thorough:
http://www.deakin.edu.au/research/stories/2012/03/20/women-should-eat-red-meat
http://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/334910
-One of the numbers I saw for broccoli was 5.4 gallons for a “head.” The numbers do jump around on this stuff a lot, due to the various methods researchers use. If you look at the patterns of this research though, whether it’s water use, land use, CO2 emissions, or health, beef (and meat) is what consistently stands out. Again, that doesn’t mean one should never eat it again. It means most individually, and societally, would be better off if less was consumed.
We’d be better off if less *food* was consumed, but the thing with certain crops, like broccoli for instance, is it’s tough to recommend people eat less broccoli. Or less fruits and vegetables. It’s not tough to tell the average person they could go for less beef or meat in their diet.
nlatimer
May 7, 2015
Just read this, too… http://plantricianproject.org/food-math-101#
Sam
May 9, 2015
To nlatimer: I’ll make some small sacrifices here and there but there is no way I’m switching to a plant based diet. No way. Unless you have a nutritional degree there are far too many risks to switch to that kind of diet.
If 80% of the water usage is from agriculture and California supplies many parts of this country and even other countries with food, why don’t we just cut back on food export and use the food for ourselves? We don’t have the water to farm and ranch for more than our own state anymore. Sure, businesses and some economy will suffer, but if we don’t get much more water they will anyways. Food for thought.
reddyb
May 12, 2015
Perhaps a small cutback would be feasible. This is what I’m trying to get at, but the other way: Lesser consumption = lesser production. One reason for this approach is it can literally happen overnight. Government doesn’t work this way usually.
Also, barring solid, proper, regulation, I think it’s tough for businesses, like agriculture in this case, to voluntarily regulate themselves. Wall Street being a prime example. Of course, consumers have their own issues here too. For instance, in one way, this post is about people voluntarily limiting their calorie intake. We all know how well the average person does with this.
Beyond that, California supplies so much food, I don’t think this is reasonable. Although, maybe it would have to happen if things got bad enough. I see some emergency circumstances happening first, like a pipeline from the north coming down, before I see a serious regulation like this happening. The amount of economic toll it would have on California, and the amount of people CA feeds, makes such a regulation hard to imagine.
For instance, we’re talking half the country’s fruits, nuts and vegetables. I can’t imagine the rest of the country suddenly having half these nutrients. http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/Statistics/
Like you said though, maybe something like that drastic happens anyways. Or maybe we can quickly shift from importing so much from California to other countries. (I’m just riffing here. Other than the specific eating elements, the intricacies of food supply, import / export, etc. isn’t something I know a ton about.) When I read the urgency NASA scientists have on this drought, yet they seeming inaction going on, maybe something of this nature is the most likely path. http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-famiglietti-drought-california-20150313-story.html
Larry Cook
September 24, 2019
The proof is in the details–except that the author forgot to add in the plant cycle–you know, the one where the green plants take in C02 using it along with nutrients, to produce foods–and breathes out O2, that is oxygen. If we were to plant more green plants–would we not see a resulting drop in the C02 levels? This along with the idea that when all that ice–much of it floating already–going to raise the water levels how much? Really–fill a glass with ice, add water, and let the ice melt–and see how much the water level actually goes up–Net-zero. Yeah, I know, not all ice is captured in floating ice–but no data I have read, shows any allowance for it–just continues to spout doom and gloom, for all our coastal areas. Except that our planet has gone through similar warm-up and chill cycles–because along some of our own coastal areas–out in about thirty fee of water–now, there are historic areas being located, that were human dwelling areas. Meaning that at some point, the water level was much lower than present day levels. And we have also had cold spells–where our land mass was under an ice sheet–some five miles thick. The one thing that is constant–is that weather changes, climates change, and land masses are subject to all of this.
It is one thing to push a theory forward–but until there is quantitative proof, it remains just a theory. In fact–at one point, the theory was that the earth was flat–and if you believed otherwise–you were branded a heretic and likely to suffer at the hands of the Church. Because in those times–the earth was the center of the universe–and all rotated around it. Funny how some theories get proven false–and others become the poster child of the times. Yes, the earth is getting warmer–but show me the factual data-that places the blame on we puny humans. Seem to remember–that one major eruption of a volcano, spews all sorts of chemical brews into the atmosphere–including tons of C02, along with tons of ash–which if the eruption is large enough–can cause major climate changes–read up on the “Little Ice Age” that caused major problems in England, and the surrounding area. Sort of the reason many Irish immigrants came to America–their own lands were no longer providing enough food to support the populations.
Larry Cook
September 24, 2019
Grew up in the Escondido area way back in the early seventies. And remember passing Lake Hodges–which at that time, had no means to fill, other than run off from a very limited watershed. The lake was much small than what is shown as its normal pool footprint. I am assuming that an aqueduct was built to bring other water down to provide a water source. Like many of the lakes in Southern California, they depend on water moved from the northern parts of the State. And in times of droughts–of which there have been many, there is lots of talk, but little action taken. If not for “imported” water–Los Angeles would exist as a mostly arid desert type of landscape.
Now–in past times-my family had orange and avocado groves–and actually used very little water–beyond what nature provided. Supplemental watering only when very young, or during the times when the rains tapered off–seasonally. But those groves are long gone, and housing fills the soils. Square footage of homes–more valuable than growing such crops.
And Pop, he planted many trees at our house–landscaped with lush green yard and all. But pulling up a listing for that house–those trees and landscape long gone, and it looks like a high desert trailer park–landscaped in rock, palm trees, and few actual green plants.
I look at some other areas, like the Sahara Desert, where lush gardens of exotic plants grew–lots of evidence of this–and yet it is now the largest desert on the planet–why–what caused such a shift in the rainfall? I have read of flooding of the Nile River–that covered miles and miles of farm lands–adding to the soils–leaving them in better condition than pre-flooding.
Again–what happened? Where did humans cause such climatic changes?
Along with historic attempts to sail across the top of North America–back in the 1800s and again, in the 1900s. And yet at one time–there is a historic record of open waters in that local.
What I am saying, is that the only constant in weather, is that there are changes. In my present area–we have had “drought” conditions for several years–yet I can remember fishing on my favorite lake–tying off above the parking lot–to the top of a Purple Martin bird house. that is some thirty plus feet of above normal water level. This along with flooding of historic levels–the Red River being at one point–some twelve miles wide, where at this time–I can walk from bank to an island in the middle of the river–and not get my feet wet. And other areas have had record water levels–highs and lows. This is just one micro-climate area–of about four or five states.
California has had record dry times–and yet–they are now getting rain–almost too much rain–flooding is happening in areas that have little means to drain excess water off. And the Lakes man has built–not too many nature provided lakes–are seeing threats to their dams and spillways–read of the Orville dam and its major spillway–that threatened a huge population below the area with flooding of major destructive powers.
No, I am not denying that change is happening, only that we puny humans may not be the total cause of it. Like I said, read of how much gasses a volcano actually spews during an eruption, and how this can cause climate change–then tell me what proof of theory there is, concerning the C02 human footprint–or is this like the Freon scare–cars using a very small amount compared to the then integrated circuit industry. Ton for ton–
Brian Reddy
September 27, 2019
Hey Larry,
-I’m not sure why the post incited such a response from you about climate change. The post is about the California drought. Beyond a brief, tangential comment about foods which use less water also use less CO2, “climate change” isn’t mentioned.
-I do think this presents an opportunity to address, frankly, one of the silliest arguments within the climate change debate.
I mean, the drought was indisputable…so I mention we could eat less food period, and also less water intensive food. That also happens to be a good move for most people’s dietary profile. So…what’s the downside? We have more water and healthier bodies? That shouldn’t be nullified because a few years later it started raining again, right? We should deal with the cycles we may be in, no?
Any hint of climate change discussion always get dragged into whether it is happening / whether humans are causing it. You don’t even need to think about whether humans are causing it to make a reasonable conclusion as to what we should be doing. Unless one holds stock in Exxon or something, there’s no downside to being e.g. less reliant on fossil fuels. Or eating less beef.
“What if it turns out we were off on the theory?”
This should not be a theoretical debate. It is a pragmatic one.